liz_marcs ([info]liz_marcs) wrote,
@ 2007-08-03 10:04:00

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Current mood: enraged

And So It Begins...Again. (The new 6A/LJ journal deletions)
Have I mentioned that I hate being right? People were calling me (and others like me) hysterical drama queens after the dust of the Great LJ Strikeout of 2007 settled and we were still bitching. And we were called drama queens for warning people off from buying permanent accounts because some of us didn't buy for one second that LJ/6A was sorry.

Sheeyah. Right. I told you so.

But that's not gonna help us now, is it? So down to business.

As some of you no doubt know by now, El-Jay is once more in Your Friends List Deleting Your Friends.

And they're deleting them for the same reason and with as much waring as they did back during the Great LJ Strikeout of 2007...only they're being slightly more careful about it.

Actually, that's not true.

There've been a few rumors for the past two weeks over on InsaneJournal's 07refugees assylum and GreatestJournal's fandomtossed that some journals were being quietly deleted. The highest profile deletion was [info]mightygodking in HP fandom who was TOS'd due to DMCA order (full story here, as well as news that it's not just your main journal that gets deleted, but every journal you've got attached to your LJ email).

This latest purge is starting to grow in scope and size and once more is tackling innocent people in fandom.

Fuck you, 6A/LJ. Fuck you very much.

[info]bubble_blunder has a complete round up of what happened, who it happened to, and why. Definitely a good first stop if you want to get the complete skinny.

[info]innocence_jihad also has a a round-up of links on the latest.

[info]synecdochic offers some suggests as to why 6A/LJ is going wonk-o again. Surprise, surprise, it's due to the current legal climate in the U.S. Hey! Remember the children's daycare witch hunts back in the 80s in the U.S.? You know the ones I mean. The ones where there was supposedly a national ring of Satanists diddling with the CYLDERIN and recruiting them for Satan? What we've got here is the same, only instead of children's daycare, think "social networking sites."

For more information, don't forget to check in regularly with 07refugees on InsaneJournal and Fandomtossed on GreatestJournal.




So, anyone think that it's a concidence that deleted accounts are no longer shown with a strike-through, but with an unlinked bold instead? Or how about the fact that deleted accounts will never, ever show up on your user page until, you know, you hit that "more details" link at the bottom of your user page.

So, anyone think those big, new shiny abuse report links at the bottom of every single one of your entries are a good idea now?




Sick of this? Here's some potential new homes:

[info]djinanna has a nice overview of various journaling sites you might want to consider moving your shingle, too. I have a review of the InsaneJournal, GreatestJournal, and JournalFen options. Note that I am liz_marcs on both InsaneJournal and GreatestJournal, and scaryfairy on JournalFen (Note that I don't use JournalFen for more than commenting and posting fanfic).

If you choose to set up shop on InsaneJournal (InsaneJournal owner squeaky has gone out of his way to welcome fandom and made clear that it would take a DMCA or court order to force a suspension), mllesatine has a list of useful links for the site

ETA: [info]elke_tanzer has some other excellent options to protect yourself from LJ-related obliteration from the net.




Some ways to protect your data from getting lost:

LJArchive (Windows only) will download your entire journal (including comments) to your hard drive. It's a nice, electronic, searchable database that I've found to be dead useful. It's certainly more useful than LJSeek if you're looking for the link you vaguely remember posting in a reply to someone who commented on your journal at 3 a.m. two years ago.

LJBook (Windows and Mac) creates a PDF copy of your entire journal and preserves everything. PDFs are also searchable if you use the Search Function, although probably not as flexible as the LJArchive Search Function.

If you're looking for migrate to another journaling service LJ-SEC will allow you to move every single entry from LJ to any other site that uses LiveJournal code. Here's my experience using LJ-SEC, including positives and negatives. This is definitely a thumbs-up option, especially if you're moving over to InsaneJournal.

If you're not quite ready to jump ship, but think it's time to start multi-posting on several sites, Semagic allows multiple posting with one click. Just following these instructions and you're pretty much able to multi-post on any number of journals.

Afraid to make the move because you don't want to lose your Flist? These instructions will tell you how to syndicate all your friends to your new journaling home.




I don't know how much I'll be able to keep up with what's going on, since, y'know, I gotta work for a living. The above links should help you get started so you can do whatever you need to do.



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[info]hilleviw
2007-08-03 03:04 pm UTC (link)
So...what option have you chosen?

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[info]liz_marcs
2007-08-03 03:08 pm UTC (link)
I've been cross-posting between InsaneJournal (my prefered), GreatestJournal, and LiveJournal since Memrorial Day and backed up my LJ completely to InsaneJournal and GreatestJournal on May 31. So at the moment I have an equal presence on all three journaling sites.

JournalFen is pretty much a back-up archive for fanfic, but it's a mess because the code is horrifically old over there.

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(no subject) - [info]caelumgrey, 2007-08-04 07:21 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]matgb
2007-08-03 03:07 pm UTC (link)
FFS.

OK, I'll get work over the weekend on my much delayed "use Wordpress as a better alternative" project and do some test installs.

Because jumping to a clone is medium term problematic, as LJ isn't releasing new stuff and you don't get your own subdomain. Moving to servers powered by something like Wordpress MultiUser (as in the same thing that runs ALL of wordpress.com) makes much more sense as the code base is developing fast and all the extra stuff we'd want is possible as plugins.

Grah! OTOH, if you turn on your layout for post pages (paid/sponsored only) then the report abuse flag doesn't seem to be there).

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[info]liz_marcs
2007-08-03 03:12 pm UTC (link)
Good luck with your project.

Unfortunately, I've decided I don't like Wordpress all that much. Sure, it's snazzy and pretty, but honestly? It lacks good social interaction, which is what journaling sites have that blogging sites down.

Plus for people like me who aren't interesting in setting up our own hosts...or buying server space somewhere *shrug* the whole Wordpress deal is more trouble than it's worth.

I'd like to be convinced I'm wrong, after playing with Wordpress a bit, it's just missing some key things that I like about journaling sites.

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(no subject) - [info]matgb, 2007-08-03 03:20 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]liz_marcs, 2007-08-03 03:28 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]http://voting.taktix.org/technorati-openid.html, 2007-08-03 04:11 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]matgb, 2007-08-03 04:13 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]sermoa, 2007-08-04 10:03 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]matgb, 2007-08-04 10:08 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]sermoa, 2007-08-04 10:17 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]matgb, 2007-08-04 10:22 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]sermoa, 2007-08-04 10:46 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]matgb, 2007-08-04 10:49 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]aimee.mychores.co.uk, 2007-08-04 03:34 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]jehnt, 2007-08-05 09:05 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]matgb, 2007-08-05 09:21 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]jehnt, 2007-08-05 09:01 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]alicettlg
2007-08-03 03:25 pm UTC (link)
news that it's not just your main journal that gets deleted, but every journal you've got attached to your LJ email.

Interestingly they also told one deleted user that they would not allow them to create any new journals. I'm wondering how they plan to enforce that? Block an IP address? But even with cable/dsl which have fairly static IP addresses, it's possible to get a new/different IP address. Dial-up users almost invariably have a different IP address every time and at one time, AOL users all showed one of only about six IP addresses regardless of their actual individual IP address.

I think I like IJ best of the three - didn't someone figure out crossposting to all three automatically (IJ/LJ/GJ)? I shall have to hunt for that info and also find all my LJ flist on IJ and GJ...

I think it's also time to convert my MovableType blogs over to TextPattern or WordPress, although that won't cost 6A any money, I don't want to be seen as endorsing one of their products. :(

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[info]liz_marcs
2007-08-03 03:26 pm UTC (link)
It's in the list of links above. See the part about Semagic.

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(no subject) - [info]alicettlg, 2007-08-03 03:32 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]asphyxi
2007-08-03 03:38 pm UTC (link)
Hey there! Got directed via [info]brown_betty's LJ backup tips and the whole snafu of Strikethrough. *I've also commented on your own post wrt backups.*

I've recently set up an account over at GJ and am still in the process of tweaking posts for import, but I also want another backup online. I'm thinking of JournalFen; not just for backup, but also for me to email get updates on what's currently happening in fandom. I was totally clueless about Strikethrough and Fanlib; I recently purchased a Permanent Account and am now constantly looking over my shoulder journal-wise, and very grateful I read up on Fanlib issues first before creating an account there because I was sorely tempted by having another fic archive [I have a FF.net account, too.].

Would it be possible Is there a way for me to request a journal there through you? If not, is there another way for me to get one? Thanks in advance! :)

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[info]asphyxi
2007-08-03 03:44 pm UTC (link)
Damn. Just read your post here, and immediately ended hope of getting account at JF. *sigh* Any other way for me to get in? I swear I'm over 18. *continues reading said post*

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(no subject) - [info]liz_marcs, 2007-08-03 03:48 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]asphyxi, 2007-08-03 04:18 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]bubble_blunder, 2007-08-03 09:30 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]asphyxi, 2007-08-03 09:45 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]tnrkitect
2007-08-03 03:52 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the summary and links. I will start triple posting myself soon, I just have to get the time to get things set up. Hard to do here recently. I will be doing some more writing on energy topics fairly soon though, so keep an eye out for them.

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[info]havocthecat
2007-08-03 04:19 pm UTC (link)
GAH.

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[info]faithhopetricks
2007-08-03 04:30 pm UTC (link)
What. The. HELL?

I find it tragically amusing the opening line of your post before this one is "Now that the tides of wank are receding from my corner of LJ...."

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[info]vichan
2007-08-03 04:37 pm UTC (link)
Thanks. I heard whispers, but I haven't seen anything summarizing what's been happening. Looks like I need to crawl out from under my rock again.

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(Anonymous)
2007-08-03 04:53 pm UTC (link)
Sheeyah. Right. I told you so.

Glad to see you were rooting for LJ to fail and those who paid for accounts (permanent and other) to look stupid.

I'll be over here golf clapping your righteousness.

(posted anonymously to protect the innocent and guilty from your throng)

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[info]liz_marcs
2007-08-03 05:03 pm UTC (link)
Oh, fuck you.

I was not rooting for El-Jay to screw over its membership.

What I wanted was for people to hold off forking over cash to El-Jay until 6-Apart got their shit together and actually put forward a clear policy. The reason for this warning? Because I care a fuckload more for working people forking over $150 to anyone than I do for El-Jay, 6A, or any other corporation.

So get the fuck off your high horse, you coward, and go back and read my posts on the subject. At no point was I rooting for LJ to fail.

Dickweed.

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(no subject) - [info]faithhopetricks, 2007-08-03 06:52 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]szandara, 2007-08-04 10:07 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]nailedcasket, 2007-08-03 08:48 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]aramuin, 2007-08-03 11:51 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]misticalgurl, 2007-08-04 05:13 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]misticalgurl, 2007-08-04 05:19 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]realitydeviant0, 2007-08-05 02:53 am UTC (Expand)

[info]elke_tanzer
2007-08-03 05:08 pm UTC (link)
This is an awesome post. Thank you. Adding a link to it to my megapost o' doom now...

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[info]liz_marcs
2007-08-03 05:12 pm UTC (link)
Heee! And I linked to you, as well!

Feel free to link away.

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[info]imaginarycircus
2007-08-03 05:11 pm UTC (link)
Linked to this post at the [info]innocence_jihad post, which I am updating everytime I find something new.

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[info]liz_marcs
2007-08-03 05:12 pm UTC (link)
Thank you and feel free to link around.

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[info]terioncalling
2007-08-03 05:41 pm UTC (link)
They are out of their freaking minds.

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[info]tinylegacies
2007-08-03 06:00 pm UTC (link)
As soon as I caught wind of this, I was looking forward to reading your thoughts.

I've already started making myself more at home on IJ. I'm fairly certain that aside from my current ficathon commitments and my RP games, I'll be restricting all fannish pursuits to IJ from here on out.

I'm as disappointed as you are that you were right. LJ has introduced me to so many of my good friends.

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[info]texanfan
2007-08-03 06:36 pm UTC (link)
There are many people I keep up with through lj. In fact, some of them it's the only way I keep up with them, so I'm kind of pinned here but if you ever find you need to pull up stakes and move entirely to one of the others please let me know? I'd hate to lose touch.

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[info]lilithilien
2007-08-03 07:14 pm UTC (link)
What a wonderful resource post! I just linked to it from my LJ. And I read your other post on your experiences with LJ sec, and just transferred four years of posts over to insanejournal. Thank you so much!

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[info]amejisuto
2007-08-03 07:36 pm UTC (link)
Well I want to thank you for the hard work you're doing putting up all these links and keeping people informed. I lurked here a bit last time but I don't have anything I'm too worried about protecting. That doesn't mean that Lj/6A isn't pissing me off though. It's the principle of the thing, and I think you're being a great example of how to keep yourself informed and helping others. Thank you!

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someone posted the banned image as a macro!
[info]imaginarycircus
2007-08-03 07:51 pm UTC (link)
Have you seen this comment at [info]news??

http://news.livejournal.com/102095.html?thread=54408911#t54408911

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Re: someone posted the banned image as a macro!
[info]ljmouse
2007-08-03 08:04 pm UTC (link)
That is definitely NOT a work safe image, just FYI.

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Re: someone posted the banned image as a macro! - [info]imaginarycircus, 2007-08-03 08:08 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: someone posted the banned image as a macro! - [info]ljcygnet, 2007-08-03 11:14 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: someone posted the banned image as a macro! - [info]imaginarycircus, 2007-08-03 11:43 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: someone posted the banned image as a macro! - [info]emarkienna, 2007-08-04 09:33 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: someone posted the banned image as a macro! - [info]imaginarycircus, 2007-08-04 11:14 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]bubble_blunder
2007-08-03 08:51 pm UTC (link)
Hey hon!

I just added a major link to my new post and the post you linked that I thought I would also pass along to you. There seems to be a lot of talk about creating a new LJ-clone site. This has actually already been done. [info]twocorpses has been working on one since Strikethrough. She opened for beta testing today. It just seems as though it might make more sense to go with what is already there and let the interested parties pool their resources than to fracture fandom even more with half a dozen new journaling sites. Since you have a much larger readership than I do, I was hoping that you might put this out there in your next update. The links are all on my LJ, and would probably be pretty hard to miss.

Thanks! As always, you do an amazing job with all of this.

~Lisa

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[info]gypsy_sally
2007-08-04 12:22 am UTC (link)
Hi! I'm here via links from my flist, and you seem to have a pretty good handle on what's going on, along with a pretty good head on your shoulders about possible options and assorted info. I'm friending you so that I can utilize these talents. ;)

Let me know if this is not okay with you.

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[info]saave
2007-08-04 06:55 am UTC (link)
:D Thank you! I was linked there through my flist and I downloaded the LJ archive to back myself up. (I'm slightly wary of it, but I'm assured it's a good program.) Your post was loads of help.

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[info]girlfan1979
2007-08-04 02:14 pm UTC (link)
Just to let you know (courtesy et al., but I've friended you on both IJ and GJ under the username "girlfan").

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[info]ubiquirk
2007-08-04 02:17 pm UTC (link)
I wanted to thank you for making this post. I'm here via [info]xanphibian, though I've been meaning to ask if it's okay to friend you for a while.

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[info]dracofiend
2007-08-04 03:25 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the helpful links on downloading, migrating, etc. I'll be using them! :) Here via [info]fandom_flies.

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[info]red_sunflower
2007-08-04 04:33 pm UTC (link)
Thank you Liz for being a source of information. Btw, [info]twocorpses is working on a new lj style site, is another option for those ready to pack and leave.

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[info]arkady
2007-08-04 10:11 pm UTC (link)
On that note... FWIW, [info]snapetoy has posted here (and here on GL) how to use Semagic to post to multiple accounts on both LJ and other sites using the LJ engine simultaneously. Semagic is a Windows posting client, but I've posted here (mirrored here on GL and here on IJ) how to get Semagic running under Linux. Theoretically it's also possible to run it under darWine on Mac OS X, but I haven't finished testing it yet.

Liz, please feel free to propagate these links and spread the word so non-Windows-using fen and similar-feeling folks can make use of these tools to get away from 6A and mirror their LJs as needed.

I also have spare invite codes for DeadJournal for any who want them - I had over 70 at the last count!

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[info]eclipsed_sky
2007-08-04 11:10 pm UTC (link)
Hi Liz, I've added you as a friend over on IJ and I do hope that things get better here. But thanks for all the info here.

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